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I think this is great advice. I certainly noticed the drop in my fitness when I moved cities to a place where I could no longer walk to work every day. I love math and logic puzzles, but I recognize that many math problems exist in a world with clearly defined rules and variables. I hate that its still so acceptable and so common to cloak these actions under the masculine traits of logic and reason. Both of the above. Some guys bitch about paying for dates because of feminism (or whatever). He asked why I was doing that and I said: Im afraid youll feel not depressed and Ill miss it! He startled me by laughing and assured me that when he wasnt feeling depressed that Id know it. So if your partner was reacting in line with frustration and reacting to objective, observable behaviors that contradicted therapeutic actions you had agreed to, then that could be a reasonable reaction. Your boyfriend may have felt secure with you because, in his head, you had low self exsteem and would not look for someone better than him. People who get controlling about appearance are the pits. (not so much my mother. 1. I hope your boyfriend comes around, but I offer you my best wishes and confidence in your judgment no matter whether he does or not. 1) It really doesnt appear to be helping you (being berated and controlled is bad for humans) Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. Hes demanding you account for the stuff you do when hes not there, and is a condescending asshole about it. I expect him to monitor his health and to take as much action as he can when hes feeling bad, just as LW is doing. And at one point ran into one of his grown kids from the first family on a boardwalk. I think thats a great suggestion. We dont need to split up so I wanted to highlight that things dont need to be The Worst for you to decide a particular behavior needs to stop. I focus on how each time he does so, its a good thing he is doing, and I am proud of him for it. He Stopped Calling. But that doesnt sound like whats happening here. He still has episodes but they are further apart and not as bad when they happen, because a big chunk of the emotional part of his depression was seated in a feeling of helplessness, and owning his own stuff made him feel competent. Its also almost impossible to judge a situation from one account one letter, in this instance. If I turn back to him and say I dont feel like it, hes completely down with that. So if your partner was showing signs of depression themselves, (you know the signs) that would be a reasonable reaction. Even if he genuinely wants you to be well and capable and happy, instead of just better conformed to the you he wants, hes being hlepy. Obviously YMMV, but Ive added that to my ever expanding list of red flags, right after people who proudly announce that they have no filter!! LW, I agree with a lot of the commentators that this may be an irredeemable situation, but it may help to tell your boyfriend what he can do to help. Tell him the reasons why so he can understand. LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. In my relationship Im on both sides of the caring/cared for spectrum: I have depression and my partner is physically disabled. I sometimes wish I could timetravel and tattoo this onto my brothers forehead a few years ago. 2. I think a lot of it springs from an idea that partners make decisions together and tackle projects together, and theyve made the mistake of mis categorizing you as a project. anyone who doesnt think youre good enough does not deserve you. I thought we were going to back off on this thing where you are my trainer., What did you eat when I was out of town? Dont really have a list, but it was delicious. I like it on toasted cinnamon-raisin bread. They are raw cookie dough and you can see the cookie and you want the cookie, but the cookie dough is just not done enough, but you really want that cookie so much and you know how much better it would be if it were finished baking.and so you are mad that they arent doing what it takes to be a cookie. When things improve, can the caretaker let go and not calcify your roles into The Helper and The One Who Needs Help? If he makes you feel like crap about yourself, then you will feel like no one else will want to be with you. Hit the gym. OopsI didnt see your reply to my first post when I posted this one. okay you have got a lot of permission to dump comments here and I dont want to dismiss what other people read in your letter but offer another perspective. A lot of writing (calling, whatever) to advice people seems to be this. We both loved science fiction. As the Captain has pointed out, the LW is the expert on their own life and relationship, and probably has enough You need to in their life already without getting it here. Does he want you to be happy and comfortable in your own body; or is he looking for A Girlfriend Who Matches The Public Beauty Ideal? avert! LW, as someone who struggles with depression with a spouse who struggles with depression, heres what concerns me about your letter: Your boyfriend is expecting you to be accountable to a list of tasks hes set, rather than treating you with compassion and helping you help yourself. I still (as of right now) have hair pulling issues, and a few days ago i mangled a zit on my forehead, but it doesnt come with that looped soundtrack of badbadbadbadbad means if I so it I dont feel guilty and ashamed, which means I dont do do it more, to punish myself for being a fuckup, because now I know Im not. One way we help one another is literally asking How can I help support you on this? hes in love with himself as he sees himself manifest through you. So now I absolutely have all these weird shame issues around food, which is probably why I could barely eat around my various romantic partners for yearsits just a crappy thing to do to anyone. One of the signs your boyfriend has stopped making an effort is that your relationship has become one-sided, efforts are now one-sided. That person is more invested in control and in being right than in respecting you. Its just whining, the fact is that if you really care about someone, you want to impress them. If it was, hed be asking you how he can help you heal, not telling you how to heal for him. If a relationship is making you unhappy, you do not have to bend yourself into a pretzel to try and make it work. ? when someone is abused.). If he does answer, sometimes it takes a while unlike before where there were never more than two rings on the line before he picked up now it can take five or six rings! Here are 7 early warning signs of a controlling boyfriend who thinks he owns you. And you dont need to accept this as appropriate treatment. but wanted to make sure you knew he wasnt judging/minding/caring about your choice of snack. For instance, it takes me 20 minutes to get out the door in the morning: wake up, shower, comb hair, brush teeth, eat breakfast, out the door. I have to consciously remind myself sometimes that feelings are allowed because I would like life better if I could reason them away, or at the very least put them in a box labeled This feeling serves X purpose. But this very desire means I know how nonsensical my own brain can be when it comes to why I feel what I feel, so I cant fathom trying to turn that analysis onto someone else as if I know how to solve someone elses feelingsbraincomplex. Telling me how logical he is. It also reads a bit like hes trying to control her looks as opposed to her happiness, though again, my vision may be a bit skewed here. Exactly. You might find some helpful scripts for a well-meaning partner in this Captain Awkward post: https://captainawkward.com/2011/11/05/question-130-my-partner-is-depressed-and-i-am-drowning/. Im also in a place where I need to learn to feel good about myself and yet am in a home environment where I hear waaaay more criticism, scrutiny, and you should/shouldnts instead of support. I mention all of this because I remember thinking to myself a lot, during that time, Eh, this is fine. So even if what LW does affected her bf a lot (and it doesnt), the two of them putting themselves in the position of BF polices LW is bad for both of them. You also have the feeling that something must be wrong between you two because it feels like there are more bad days than good ones lately. The Captain makes some excellent points and the writer would do well to consider them seriously. Its possible. My ex did this. Boyfriend, I have my therapist for coaching & helping me develop. When I started college, and made other friends, and had a job of my own. I struggle mightily. You cant be shamed or cajoled into doing those things: it might work for a little while, but unless the changes are self-implemented in a healthy and manageable way, theyre not going to stick. Have trouble concentrating to work? Not many people at soup kitchens are gonna want to hear Dude mansplain to them how they can improve their lives. Getting a sense of your boundaries, and reclaiming them is indeed a sign that you are getting better. In some cases, he may have forgotten how strong your connection was. He is not interested in you. Without the receptive, captive audience, it isnt nearly as much fun for him. If your partner loves you, then he'll be open to working on them with you. Relax. We both are very logic- and reason-focused people, That bit in particular sounds so much like my ex-husband. So if he has stopped watching everyone's stories, then he might be truly breaking free from social media. You might think about trying an extended period of being away from each other, if such a thing is remotely possible. Not because Ive been on the receiving endactually quite the opposite, as I was in a relationship with someone who was constantly miserable and did absolutely nothing to try and rectify it. You know your boyfriend and your own situation better than we do, so I trust you to figure out who and what you are dealing with and take steps to care for yourself. short and sweet? He would say, We really need to work on your sense of adventure and getting you to be more open to new experiences. He always said we, as though this was a joint project. Except now the LW is in therapy, things are getting better, the LW has a handle on it allbut Boyfriend still hasnt internalized this. But as things progressed, he developed this habit of picking me up and driving me someplace without telling me where we were going, because it was a surprise. 19 times out of 20, it would be one of the handful of places we always went, but that 1 time in 20, it would be something special. The only trouble is, he was far more of a night owl than me, so these special events werent always to my taste and would keep me up hours later than I was comfortable with. LW, you are already doing so much good stuff for yourself, and at your own pace. It sounds like your boyfriend has a dysfunctional relationship with your illness. He wanted to call the shots. Yeah, there were also lots of couples who socialized together officially when there was an Official Occasion, while spending the rest of their time with their respective lovers (totally with each others knowledge and tacit consent). I dont even have to duly note your concern or take that under advisement. This a) allows me to see places that I normally wouldnt be able to get to (much of Europe and North America, selected bits of South America, Asia, Australia), b) floods the brain weasels with new impressions without having to get out of the house (and the more impressions I stuff my brain with, the less it falls into the same old ruts), and c) it completely turns the I have to sit on a stationary bike and stare at a wall for twenty minutes around on its head: its now a case of I can explore [cool place] for twenty minutes at my own pace without much effort and Im quite often annoyed when I have to stop. But then kept sending financial support to his (first) wife, who knew that he was alive and had another family. He took this as a personality defect that he had to badger me into fixing. he told me to give him space but i feel like he is mad with me and ignoring me; My boyfriend and i have been together 6 months and we had a big fight on the weekend. My boyfriend wants to go all the way but I'm scared it will hurt. LW, your bf sounds like my ex bf with the bone deep conviction that you should always be allowed to comment on your sos appearance and choices and exercise and work ethic. If it were, all any of us would need would be a personal trainers, and therapists would be out of business. Ive read a ton of stories from people who were pushed, and their health was badly hurt. She can call a plumber or locksmith. Jedi hugs, if you want them. Honestly its tough. you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck.. Don't ever try to stop them, you need for them to realise they need to stop or cut back. That doesnt. Now, if he didnt react well to that, I might change it, but he says it is good to hear. Copyright 2011 thru 2023 Jennifer Peepas, all rights reserved. Hmmm, actually, that wasnt the post I was thinking of. And you know what? You need people who are delighted by you and people who see you as competent and great. She cares a lot. If you decide that its not, then break up with him and move on. Reasonable. He immediately misses you. Thats right, mind your own business.* Asking how it affects him could give him an opener for a feelingsdump, and I wouldnt want LW put in the position of feeling like she has to manage his feelings about what she does with her own body. Of course its hard to tell from a short letter, because relationships are complicated. You've forgotten your dreams. And I have never regretted that decision even once. Anyway, enough about me. I can go one better! I have an ex my friend refers to as The Physical Manifestation of MellifluousDissents (Formerly) Low Self-Esteem. I suspect this b/f may belong to that club as well. The focus is making me incredibly uncomfortable, though. He can then act like he is doing you a favor by being with you. When your brain says ok, Im done exercising today, and instead of that being paired with anticipation of his disapproval, there is just sweet, sweet self-accepting silence. There will be someone else out there who is willing to make an effort for you. This may, sadly, be a dump him situation. nuanced (especially when exercise is not the only project Im undertaking at the moment.) If hes not pulling his weight, then this is an attempt to manipulate you into doing all the work. "And if . Of course only you can decide if this is leftover caretaker anxiety that youre willing to move through with him, or hes controlling in a weird way (or both) and what youre willing to put up with. I was in a controlling relationship (where I had recurrent depression) and it took being away from my partner for 3 months (he left the country to visit family) to feel the intense relief and lift of stress and realize that the main problem was actually him. ", But It is indeed hard. Do not wait until the stress of dealing with him makes your fingers itch for a sharp object (or whatever). Wanting to stay in your relationship is one thing, needing to stay in a relationship that actively undermines your sense of self because of housing or economics or fear of the unknown is another. Anger flips the narrative. But you are in therapy and making efforts to recover, and it doesnt sound like your condition and treatment plan isnt putting their well-being at risk, so that doesnt seem to be happening here. The thing is, it doesnt sound like he wants you to be better, despite what he says. And I am proud of him for taking a step toward being healthier. Don't jump to any conclusion your mind is playing tricks on you so don't let it. He may have felt too responsible for you, or that he was committed to always look after your needs. Try Meetup.com, a class, finding an exercise buddy who is at your level and who likes to do the same stuff you like, volunteering. I wholeheartedly agree. . To literally hear them from an external source that would be really hard to take, and hard to stay healthy. Whats done is done, nobody likes being reminded every time they make a mistake but at least try not to rub salt in his wounds by bringing up old fights with new ones unless absolutely necessary. This is part of why we dont have a good relationship). like being unable to control yourself is something to be proud of. A while later we split up, and it was unfun and shitty and also exhilarating and life changing and were both in a better place now. What it shows is that, really, the storytellers have no idea what your problem works or feels like. So, my friends often come over here. Another sign your boyfriend has stopped making an effort is that you start doubting whether he really loves, cares, and wants to be with you. Emotions *exist* and have a massive effect on our wellbeing, emotions dont just disappear if you have assessed them and decided that logically you should not be feeling that way (at least mine sure dont! Yup. Have you read about the accountant who had a brain tumor? Im so frustrated that youre hurting, and that I cant do more to help your recovery. Reasonable. Id still be loved (and unhassled!!) You know the fight that led to the end of our relationship? Our whole relationship was based on me being the messy, emotional one that he had to take care of and he had no idea how to relate to me outside of that context. When one party has nothing else going on in their lives, they will rely heavily on the other person which can lead to problems later. Theres also a significant element of what he wants/feels entitled to in there. I dont even support parents doing that with kids, where a certain degree of molding is part of the role. I feel so much better and so much stronger. Set the boundary with your boyfriend, let him say whatever he's going to say, and try not to internalize any of it. Most men and women are very different, and relating to someone who is very different from you takes patience. Regarding being able to change people: LWs boyfriend is *technically* correct if he continues with his controlling behaviour, it will almost certainly change the LW just not into the the happy, healthy LW he is trying to sell them. Challenge your beliefs and self-defeating thoughts about your partner . Beloved Human is very into self-improvement, and that has sometimes inflected the way he talks to me about it. If this seems like the case for your boyfriend then give him some space by taking a step back yourself. Not once, not twice, but every time you call. If you broke up and had to move out of your shared place, where would you go? Alas, LWs BF appears to be one of them. (Ice cream, breakfast for dinner, weird thing you like that he doesnt like. Unfortunately when men give those subtle hints many women don't listen or don't pay attention. also: breakfast for dinner is awesome and should be a part of every week Unless you dont want it to be, in which case it shouldnt! He is not the boss of you, and something in you has woken up to that. OK, clearly Im not making you happy here, what with my not exercising right and not eating well enough and doing the dishes as frequently as you like. I felt like I had to fix it and if I just explained my feelings enough (cus he was a Nice Guy and would never do anything to hurt me and never cheated on me) he would stop unintentionally making me miserable and there was no Proper Reason to do it. Kindness. We ended up breaking up about a year later. 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