Serial number 82009. Universal changed their receiver design in 1967 starting with s/n 100,000. Because of its thickness, it prevents identity theft by thieves who try to grind down the cards. Unfortunately, the IJ Mdl 834 should be capable of BOTH single and double action function and you stated earlier that it was a single shot. Does anyone have the source or name of that publisher. There are a couple guys that have the serial number dates and will be by soon I'm sure to help. The gun had hardly been used. Middle sex, New Jersey - BA00001 (1978) To BA05567 (1981). The EA designation represented the blued steel Carbines and chambered for the 5.7mm Johnson. In 1894, the firm became "Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works." It is perhaps best known as a major manufacturer of inexpensive but serviceable pocket-size revolvers in .22 rimfire, .32 S&W, and .38 S&W calibers, serving the same sizable market niche as Hopkins & Allen and Harrington & Richardson in the late-19th through mid-20th centuries. . The higher SN quantity may include rejects and leftovers sold to the Jacksonville, AR, investors. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I came across this message thread while searching for approx when my IJ .32 safety top-break revolver might have been made; maybe one of you can help? Otherwise the barrel is tight and nothing is lose. Any help. IVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS FITCHBURG. For the motors made between 1999 and 2001 we will be using this table to decode the serial number. The company produced a variety of revolvers and pistols until 1917, when it was bought by the Remington Arms Company. Thats as close as one can get. These old Iver Johnsons are 5X the quality at half the price! Im expecting a friend to bring me another Champion and he described it as very good condition. I think it is full choke. To prevent the use of the.30 Carbine M1 cartridge, the chamber was finished and reamed to be slightly shorter to accept the.30 M1 Short cartridge. I have an EXCEL 12ga single shot Ser#34577XG I believe Recorded in Middlesex, New Jersey, and Jacksonville, Ar, from 1982 to 1983. It looks like it is 1, Michigan Open Carry Activists Convicted on Technicality, Armed Self-Defense Chronicles: When a Detroit Doctor Defended Himself and His Family Against a Racist Mob, Wheelgun Wednesday: My 3 Favorite Smith & Wesson Revolvers, Federal District Court Judge Orders Illinois to Show Examples of Every Newly-Banned Firearm, https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/iver-johnson-410-shotgun.78582/#post-673328. Thought it might have been my great grandfathers. 1909 1919: all Arabic numerals Well, thats exactly what Iver Johnson did at one point in its history. SN: FCRR = 1488. Henri, if the serial number truly is all numerals with no letters, then the gun was manufactured between 1909 1919, and is not chambered for modern (3-inch) .410 shells, unless it was after-market re-chambered, or re-barreled post-1935. 6X83, need to know the brief history ( production date , place ) of iver Johnson 16 gauge shotgun serial number 10309B . Some Law Enforcement departments agencies provide a free online search tool. This bicycle is not a 1000LT and it matches the 1988 catalog configuration and color. Can anyone help? But I really love this Champion i bought, and think it exhibits way more style than my Savage 94s and 220A. If you want it quick there is a fee service that does this www.bluebookinc.com If nothing else check this website to see what they need to make an ID..I need at least that(I'm dumber) You post it here or send it in a private message and I'll do a search. I have an Iver Johnson 12 ga. Champion single barrel shotgun, serial number 26574. There are a number of books and websites dedicated to Iver Johnson revolvers. I will add pictures. Iver Johnson revolvers are popular among collectors because of their low cost and wide availability. The new firm was renamed Squires Bingham International, initially founded in 1973. With this much opacity, the mark will still be legible after the pistol has been subjected to everyday use. I sure wouldn't shoot that particular revolver until a good gunsmith was able to give it a look. Hi, can anybody help? Here are some tips on how to date an Iver Johnson revolver. Another Expert says versions 1 & 2 (black powder) have Patent Pending dates stamped on top of the barrel rib underneath the Iver Johnsons Arms & Cycle Works. Mine says Iver Johnsons Arms & Cycle Works on top, and Fitchburgh Mass, USA under it, but no Patent Pending stamps. The M1 carbine and thesingle-barrelshotgunshave many moving parts because their components are made and assembled independently. Goforth. thanks. 30-caliber carbine. john on April . In 1894 launched the production of their 'Safety Automatic' revolvers, and shortly thereafter launched hammerless versions of these guns. I have ordered the IJ book. I have an IJ Champion 410 shotgun and it has the Iver Johnson, Arms and Cycle Works, Fitchburg, MASS USA, Champion stamped on it, but there is not a serial number anywhere on it at all. I've got an Iver Johnson .38 S&W Owl's Head. i have a 20 guage champion. The lettered Serial Quantity Decoder literally spells out the title of the city. Probably made around 1922 according to the information available in Vorisks book. Any info as to the date of manufacture Iver Johnson's Arms and Cycle works was formed under that name in 1891 in Fitchburg, Massachusetts. Jacksonville EF00001 (1983) to EF00364(1986), AMAC, Jacksonville EF00338(1987) To EF00754(1988). Here is mine: If the gun has a serial number with no letter prefix, it was made between 1909 and 1919. No need to be fancy, just an overview. Iver Johnson was a US firearms manufacturer from 1871 until his death in 1895. 88 sidelock double gun. In 1977 Iver Johnsons Arms took over the Plainfield Machine production lines and continued to produce carbines in the name of Plainfield Machine. All letter. Can I get a Mfg. The BA prefix on the Iver Johnson arms represents the Enforcer model with a blue steel finish. The Iver johnson firearms started production in 1867; in 1894, Iver purchased a bicycle shop in Fitchburg and changed the company name to Iver Johnsons Arms Cycle Works. Already have the W.E. Plainfield Machine manufactured numerous sporting-style carbines in this caliber. He never mentions the letter suffix or lack of one in his book but I was informed there was such a scheme in place. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Mine is FHTX. The gun was made before 1925, and the word appears below all other makings; the gun was made after 1925. Can you give me any history or any kind of information about my single shot 410 Champion. Possessing a rifle that could fire a military cartridge was illegal in France. Weve all seen serial numbers that include letters either as a prefix or a suffix. The serial number can be found in many different locations. Nickel plated. Heres a link to an article on the 32. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-revieww-iver-johnson-32-sw/. that sticks down under the breech. Any ballpark info as to the date of manufacture I know Bill Goforth had lists of alpha-numerical or numerical-alpha serial numbers that varied by year made. were long before the federal requirements for consistent serial numbers (Gun Control Act of 1968) so serial numbers were for factory use and inventory contro. Their phone # is 1-800-589-6261. I own two Iver Johnson 38 S&W caliber break top revolvers and need help determining the date of manufacturing: Both have 3 1/2" barrels and flat ( not coil springs) The first one is serial number G33166. The patent date on the butt strap looks to be '08 which is also within the smokeless era, as is the coil mainspring. Check the search tool in the state where you purchased the gun. JavaScript is disabled. I am reading the serial number from the bottom of the trigger guard on a photo of the gun. Location. By no means are they specimen but by my estimation I'd say they are in "good shape". See the model number codes here. It represents a 9 mm parabellum with a blue steel finish. Iver Johnsons revolvers were very popular and sold in great numbers. Can you tell me when it was manufactured? We hope you have got it right. One Internet expert says that any serial # starting with the letter G or higher is version 3 post-1909 smokeless, but will never have a free-spinning cylinder Mine is higher than G but spins freely. I'm guessing this was made around early 1900s from the Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle Works. As for value my recent book on gun values lists the Iver Johnson Champion in good to excellent condition from $100 to $290. I have an Iver Johnson Champion (I think 10 ga) Single Shot Lever Action. I recently inherited this revolver. The AA prefix represents the military and paratrooper model with a blued steel finish. The company has been in business since 1871 and has a reputation for producing quality firearms. The Iver Johnson revolver is available in a variety of calibers and styles, making it a versatile option for self-defense, target shooting, or plinking. The new value of an IVER JOHNSON pistol has risen $36.80 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $807.78 . If really 2.5 inches, I suppose I would refer to a hand loading manual, or search Google for reliable info. What are the most common calibers for Iver Johnson revolvers? .22, .32 and .38 were the handguns and these single shots were available in all the gauges. IVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS FITCHBURG. A quick trip to the Wheelmen site provided quite a bit of Iver Johnson serial number information. I have a Iver Johnson side by side shotgun, believe it to be 12 gauge, serial number 5394E . A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Serial number is 9778 do you have any information on it? The overall cartridge length was identical to that of the.30 Carbine M1. (https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/iver-johnson-410-shotgun.78582/#post-673328). This bicycle is not a 1000LT and it matches the 1988 catalog configuration and color. The ES Serial represents a 5.7 mm Johnson with a stainless steel finish. The serial # is 15236. The Iver Johnson Knox All was made by Crescent Firearms Company of Norwich, CT. Ive read it was a re-branded Crescent Certified Empire No. 1901 with an Iver Johnson .32 caliber Safety Automatic revolver (serial number 463344). A serial number is stamped in metal, so it doesnt wear quickly. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Reactions. Do you know how to tell when your gun was made? Total production from 1894 to 1896 was 250000 guns. Other than the receiver, all other components are designed for a. Bill Smith appears to have studied the firm and the bicycles at length and has built a serial number model chart, which he uses to project build dates for the bikes. Jacksonville, Ar AA44763(1983) To AA64781(1986). . Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The 1898-99 has four patent dates, the 1902 five. it appears to be a 410 gauge but conventional 410 shells do not fit in the chamber. Iver johnson model top break, bright shiny bore, rare 5" barrel, grips excellen.click for more info. The serial number is 4671. I have a Champion twenty gauge. The gun had hardly been used. The revolver is simple to operate and maintain, and its reliability has made it a favorite among gun owners for over a century. 1930 1939: Arabic numerals plus two alphabetic letters suffixed Model 1, First Model or Old Model. The Trigger cocking revolver will have "model 822) stamped near the barrel hinge, AND it will also have "IJ Trigger Cocking 22 single action target" stamped on the blued barrel surface. Few receivers with the markings of Iver Johnson over New Jersey have been observed among the M1 carbines manufactured in AR by both Iver Johnson Arms cycle works and AMAC. I love hunting, so I often have to deal with hunting equipment. An Iver Johnson bicycle is on display at the Smithsonian Institutions National Museum of American History in the America on the Move exhibit. Has Iver Johnsons arms & cycleworks Fitchburg, MASS, USA engraved on sight radius over barrel. It looks like a Iver Johnson Mdl 834 SuperShot revolver. In Jacksonville, the only serial number was BA05708, Recorded in 1983. Iver Johnson was still making this caliber of carbines. Remember, the serial number only tells when the gun was MADE, and not when it SOLD! Bill Smith appears to have studied the firm and the bicycles at length and has built a serial number model chart, which he uses to project build dates for the bikes. APR.686.FEB.1587MAY10.87AUG.2596.PATS.PENDING The serial number on left grip is A 1139. Currently, shotguns are manufactured in Turkey by Armed guns. The only markings I see are that Value of one of these old guns depends on its condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. The 3rd design..for lack of a better term appears(to me anyway) to be similar to pin striping used on custom cars and bikes I see no particula picture just a highly decorated mushroom like pattern with what appears to be a bullet shape encompassed into it. Iver Johnson Safety Automatic in .38. The gun Leon Czolgosz used to . Thanks again Bill Antique 1880s Iver Johnson Champion 12-gauge 33 1/4" barrel/fore end-Side . Apparently, this production number paled in comparison to sales of Iver Johnson's more inexpensive, solid frame, Target Sealed Eight revolvers. The markings observed on the receiver ring of the Iver Johnson carbines in this sequence were Universal Firearms markings used 1966-1967 (serial numbers 88000-127000). Ever since our resident Iver Johnson expert, Mr. Bill Goforth passed any information on Iver Johnson shotguns it is anyones guess. MASS.U.S.A. These were built into Enforcers in the months before the Bankruptcy in October 1986. The BA prefix on the Iver Johnson arms represents the Enforcer model with a blue steel finish. That agrees with information I received from another source. The gun is in great shape and the bore is like a mirror. In the early 1980s, when the business was still based in New Jersey, it appeared to have experimented with and begun manufacturing an M1 Carbine chambered for the.30 M1 Short cartridge for export to France. They were successful enough that, in 1878, they were able to open their own factory. To comply with regulations set forth by the Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) Bureau, firearm gun values must be a minimum of.003 in (0.07620 mm) deep. Almost 20 years ago when I picked it up it had a tag on the trigger guard that said "Iver J. Can I shoot modern ammunition in an Iver Johnson revolver? Then, using a chart of Iver Johnson serial numbers, match the first two digits of the serial number with the year of manufacture. Posts: 1. They are also popular among shooters because of their simple design and reliability. I have a 12ga Champion with serial # of CUFC , if I;m correct it is from 1940-1957? I don't know enough about them so maybe that's why I'm so confused on this one. I can see that the word is above all other markings so this gun was made before 1925. Iver Johnson was in the firearm industry until it was liquidated in 1993. Its an Iver Johnson. The J letter prefix serial represents M1 carbines with a blue steel finish. Iver Johnson was an American firearms, bicycle, and motorcycle manufacturer from 1871 to 1993. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. There are markings other than serial numbers that will tell when one was made but my reference does not list them. I am especially interested in whether it may have been initially purchased (new) in Illinois or Missouri. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Johnsons revolvers were particularly popular among law enforcement officers and civilians alike for their reliability and low cost. Anyone interested. Warwick Vermont J900001 to J900127 in 2007. All it has to say is that before 1925 the word CHAMPION was stamped above all other markings and after 1925 the word CHAMPION was below all other markings. these forums and if you search the shotgun and handgun . i have revolver number 39561, can you tell me what it is please? Just purchased a 12 gauge single shot rifle that looks old. I am not seeing any prefix in the serial number. I have a 410 shotgun with the numbers 45470. The company shared the same name as its founder, Norwegian-born Iver Johnson (1841-1895). What appears to be a random jumble of letters actually corresponds to individual digits. The prefix was recorded on Iver Johnson arms in Jacksonville, Ar, from 1985 to 1986. It would be best if you questioned the retailer to find out who they sold it to. #S62301, Your email address will not be published. Mar 14, 2016. Im sure that little gun has a lot of clean rounds left in it. I am looking for a Fore End Iron, Fore End Barrel Sub and For End Catch. Iver Johnson revolvers can be identified by their distinctive top-break action. The gun has a ribbed barrel which is what piqued my interest. Model M5 (EA serial number) and Model ES (s/n) are both available, with the former having a blued finish and the latter being made of stainless steel. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. . It was my grandfathers. Please share it with us in the comments section. I am trying to determine when it was made. Iver johnsons arms cycle worksbegan the production of firearms in 1894, and since then, they have produced over 500,000 firearms. By comparison, I saw a new H&R Pardner 12 gauge, new in the box, at the auction, one of the last examples made in their New England plant. I just discovered that my Iver Johnson .32 is in fact a .38 S&W caliber. 4,524 Enforcers were manufactured and sold between 1978 and 1981. But after a good scrubbing with a brass brush, especially in the chamber and forcing cone, i swabbed out a lot of dark brown residue, and the bore looked like a mirror. I own an Iver Johnston single shot 410 with the wording Champion etched in the metal on one side of the gun. Any thoughts on taking my Champion apart and fixing it? Hey Rusty , not many of us still around that know about all the Barry Seals , depositions from federal judges , dead kids on the tracks , girls thrown out of planes , ashtrays full of coke , guns for coke , old man Bush running the CIA guns for coke out of the Mena , AK airport and the Gov. chambered for 2 1/2 inch shells. Iver Johnson was by far the most prolific producer of handguns in the pre WWI era. Y1 I2 T3 Chemical4 L5 B6 U7 Ur8 Gary the gadget guy9 Ive study that Times 0 (zero) This describes your serial quantity as 1474 According to another source, the lettered guns were produced from 1939-1957. . If the gun has atwo-letter prefix,it was made between 1930 and 1939. I may be mistaken but I thought this information was from old post or question answered by Mr. Goforth. Amen. The date a firearm is manufactured is often the first day it is ready for sale after all its components have been assembled. Lets dive into it. Does the gun have a serial number and please describe its condition and if possible post a photograph. All of these were made in Middlesex, NJ. Ever since our resident Iver Johnson expert, Mr. Bill Goforth passed any information on Iver Johnson shotguns it is anyones guess. The A suffix indicates they were surplus obtained from New Jersey and sold by Jacksonville, AR. A Brief History of Iver Johnson and the Revolvers they Produced, Iver Johnson Revolvers and Their Place in Todays Market. Iver Johnson revolvers are well-made and reliable firearms. I was only slightly disappointed when I discovered the letter C at the end of the serial number. Having a serial number on a firearm is very crucial. Most I have seen sold on the various gun auction sites have sold for between $50 and $100. The serial number translates to 2782. I think it is full choke. Spellbinding mythical short stories. The.30 Short caliber cartridge was utilized, and it was manufactured with French exportation in mind. I was looking for a manufactured date. 2023 Optics Bible - WordPress Theme by Kadence WP, Iver Johnson Serial Number Database: Table and Date of Manufacture, Smith and Wesson Serial Number Lookup: 7 Pre-Model Number Versions, Marlin Serial Number Lookup: Learn All About Factory Records, How to Install Zastava M70 Scope Mount: 4 Things You Should Know. PAT'D.APR.6.86.FEB.15.87.MAY 10.87.DEC.26.93 PAT'S PENDING Model 1, First Model, first variation Single top latch, 100'000 were manufactured in 1895, serial number without letter prefix, the difference was the cylinder retainer, marked on the top of the barrel rib Thanks for your help. All carbines having the markings of Middlesex, NJ, are stainless steel. 17,770. I have an iver johnson champion 12 ga with serial urtb. A prime condition example (rare) that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring as much as 125 at auction while a rusty metal, rotten or broken wood and missing parts piece of junk fit only for parts salvage or as a whiskey still stirring stick might fetch as little a 10. I have a Iver Johnsons Arms & Cycle Works Champion 410. Your knowledge is much appreciated. I am new here and hoping someone can help me with the pistol I have inherited. M2 select fire models with various types of finishes. Notice there is no reference to a serial number that ends in X. They made in excess of 5 million revolvers between 1871 and 1917, more than Colt, Smith and Wesson and Remington combined. The Iver Johnson SuperShot revolver was modified in the mid-50's to include a smooth cylinder, and pear shaped barrel profile and became the Mdl. While it may seem like an unusual choice of letters (wouldnt alphabetical be simpler? Thank you guys for your help. For those in France who want to own an M1 Carbine, the legal.30 M1 Short was developed. . Goforth book. . This is one of the more current threads I have seen regarding IJ serial numbers and identifying model numbers, so appreciate any info you can provide. The X equals 0. Jan 4, 2021. To add to my confusion is that I don't see the caliber stamped on the left side of the barrel (unless picture is too poor to show) which was the practice on the BP models and not the smokeless ones. The serial # under the grip is my brother in law passing left me a IJ 32 revolver with 3 inch barrel and holds 5 cartridges. Before that, the standard clambering for their single shots was 2-1/2 inch. The serial number runs from BS00001 through BS00306 (1980). 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A manufacturer could only tell you what retailer bought it and when. of AK getting the White House as a reward story , but the real bulk of guns that those EL Salvador boys got for their coke , came from Iran . Between 1909 and 1957, Iver Johnson - known for their inexpensive handguns - made a shotgun they named "Champion.". Answer (1 of 2): Iver Johnson's most successful years in producing hundreds of thousands of inexpensive revolvers, shotguns, bicycles, etc. Has me stumped but, it doesn't take much. It links the firearm to the original manufacturer and owner, who is required to have a license. Cased number A49065-----See Johnson, Iver Johnson, Bye & Co. Iver Johnson Arms Co. Iver Johnson Arms Works Topbreaks (Safety Hammer) .32 cal. The most common Iver Johnson revolver is the Safety Automatic model, which was produced in large numbers from 1894 to 1941. All it has to say is that before 1925 the word CHAMPION was stamped above all other markings and after 1925 the word CHAMPION was below all other markings. Iver Johnson was a U.S. firearms manufacturer from 1871 to 1993. Just like toaster manufacturers. YOUR CART. 1909 1919: all Arabic numerals Furthermore, the Iver johnson arms have a forum community dedicated to helping you with your gun needs. iver johnson champion ser, number 111 f what is the year ? The E was added before the AA to signify the Enforcer model. The gun's serial number indicates it was from the first year of production- 1894 or 95 . They made in excess of 5 million revolvers between 1871 and 1917, more than Colt, Smith and Wesson and Remington combined. 25.The company shared the same name as its founder, Norwegian-born Iver Johnson (18411895). The serial number will tell you your firearm's history and when it was made. . If the serial number is in line with the rest that would make the gun from 1910. 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